Upgrade Angel Philia / Classic OBI50/48 with GGR parts

Since Obitsu is now selling individual parts for their new GGR body, I wanted to try if the new wrist and ankle parts could be used on the old frame to add some extra degrees of freedom. The Obitsu website warns you about incompatibility with classic OBI50 hands and limited compatibility with classic feet, but nothing about the frame. - So I decided to give it a try.

Here are the new parts. - So far, there's two different hand poses available for the GGR.

 

Below is a comparison of hands and wrist connectors. From top to bottom: DDP, GGR, OBI50.

Indeed, the connector knob on the GGR is larger than on the classic version (probably to fit a sturdy swivel joint) and the hands are a tiny bit larger as well. There's no easy way to get the old OBI50 hands onto the new connector. At least that saves you the trouble (money) to get new wrist joints for all your old hands...

The new hands are made from a softer vinyl (a little bit harder than DD hands), so they can be swapped out without too much trouble or the need for a hair dryer.

Edit: Angel Philia hands do fit onto the new connector, but require a generous amount of heating. - Details below.

The GGR connector knob is smaller than the one for DDP but you can fit DDP hands on there just fine. Regular DD hands fit too, although they're a bit loose and look too big in my opinion. Unfortunately, the openings in the GGR hands are a bit too small to comfortably fit over the DDP connector. Otherwise that would've been a great source for some extra DDP hand poses...

 

The feet got a complete overhaul: OBI50 on the left, GGR on the right.

There's no screw anymore and the magnet bit is now directly attached to the skeleton. Below pic: GGR left, OBI50 right.

With the added bulk, the new ankle part won't fit into the old magnetic feet (unless you remove the magnet first). According to the Obitsu website, the old foot vinyl should still fit on the new ankles, but depending on the thickness of the vinyl there may still be some issues. There's also no word how/if they work with e.g. AP heel feet. (I don't have any, so unfortunately can't test it.) Edit: AP heel feet do NOT fit the new ankle joint (see below).

The new ankle construction is hopefully a lot sturdier then the old version, since the OBI50 had a lot of issues with the retainer ring cracking.

 

So, now to put everything together. The connectors of the GGR parts fit perfectly fine onto the OBI50 skeleton and the spheres of the joints are also the same size, so they integrate well with the vinyl shell parts. The new joints even have a matte finish which better matches the vinyl, too!

Now Ellie can pose like this:

The new joints are fairly stiff (not a bad thing) and the GGR vinyl parts are a tiny bit lighter in color (it's barely noticeable, though).

The magnetic feet are now a fair bit weaker (likely because of thicker vinyl at the bottom of the feet), but they still do a decent job of helping the doll stay upright. - At least, now you don't have to worry about a foot or leg remaining stuck to the base when you pick up the doll.

 

When attached, the new wrists look just like the old ones, and when you want to use any of the OBI50 hand poses you can effortlessly just switch out the connector.

 

I generally like the new foot shape, especially because it does away with the screw in the bottom. 

The gap between vinyl and joint looks a bit odd and I first thought that I hadn't attached it properly, but it indeed seems to be this way.

Maybe it's an updated version to counter the joint chewing into the vinyl, as reported here:

Although they appear to have the issue on the shin vinyl, not the foot.

 

I'm really happy with the upgrade, since it allows for much more natural posing and brings Ellie up to par with what's standard on almost all of my other dolls.

 

I hope this helps everyone who's on the fence about upgrading their OBI50/48 dolls with some GGR parts.

Edited May 11 by Tierparkzone
Updated info regarding AP parts.

First of all thanks for the comprehensive review. 

 

Damn, I really wanted to buy some pairs of wrists to replace the current ones, but I don't want to buy all my APs hands again, I was hoping they were compatible... sigh

Oh man, I am so happy to see they upgraded the whole foot and ankle setup!  I can't tell you how many of those things I've had explode on me while doing nothing more than changing a sock or a shoe!  So friggin brittle!  I'll have to get some replacements for all of my girls that use an Obitsu body soon so we won't have broken ankle worries anymore.  Thanks for this info!

 

Billy

7 hours ago, Testament said:

Damn, I really wanted to buy some pairs of wrists to replace the current ones, but I don't want to buy all my APs hands again, I was hoping they were compatible... sigh

The AP hands might still be compatible since the vinyl is softer and thinner than the standard ob50 hand parts. But @Tierparkzone’s Ellie came with standard Obitsu hand parts instead of the AP ones, so he might not be able to check. If all else fails, I can check when I get a pair (but I’m waiting for them to be available in-store so I can buy them on discount…)

17 minutes ago, ragnamuffin said:

But @Tierparkzone’s Ellie came with standard Obitsu hand parts instead of the AP ones, so he might not be able to check.

Indeed, I don't have AP hands. We can check if they fit, the next time my Ellie and your Alice meet.

But if you still need a hair dryer to get the AP hands comfortably onto the old OBI50 connectors, I'm not sure if they're going to work on the GGR wrist.

44 minutes ago, Tierparkzone said:

But if you still need a hair dryer to get the AP hands comfortably onto the old OBI50 connectors

You don’t.

Looks like I need to upgrade my Ellie wrist and ankle too. Thank you for review and experimentations.

Thank you for the review. Now l can get back in Obitus again.

Oh, that is very cool! When my AP finally arrives here (so much to April release ...) I will probably also think about doing this upgrade, more poseability is always a good thing.

So as a little addendum, Ellie paid a visit to @ragnamuffin's place and we experimented a bit with AP hand and feet parts.

First of all, the AP hands DO fit on the new GGR wrists. - Left to right: GGR hand on GGR wrist, AP hand on GGR wrist, OBI50 hand on OBI50 wrist.

The AP hands are made from more rigid vinyl than the GGR hands, so they need to be heated with a hair dryer to attach. But after lots of heating and wriggling, they fit perfectly fine onto the GGR wrist. There's enough space inside the hand to accommodate the larger connector peg without any visible bulging of the vinyl. - It's just not fun to swap these out on a regular basis, so you might want to consider getting a peg for each of your AP hands.

 

We also tried to fit the AP heel feet onto the new ankle joints, but unfortunately the opening in the feet is too small to fit the entire GGR foot skeleton assembly through, even with a generous amount of heating beforehand.

Also, it appears as if the heel bit of the new GGR foot is too long, so the ankle joint would sit awkwardly, even if you managed to get everything into the foot vinyl. You might be able to mod the foot skeleton to fit by removing the magnet holder and cutting the heel bit shorter, but if you bother with that, you could probably just as well mod the classic OBI50 ankle joint to mount without a screw...

Any chance of trying the new waist and shoulder parts?

24 minutes ago, Kemonomimicry said:

Any chance of trying the new waist and shoulder parts?

So far, I don't have any plans to try out other GGR frame parts apart from the wrists and ankles, since they don't seem to provide any additional range of motion. In case we have another issue with a cracked shoulder socket in the future, I'll probably try out the new GGR chest frame, since they apparently added reinforcements here.

According to the Obitsu website the GGR chest frame is made from a different plastic, but fits both the GGR and OBI50 frames. However, the hip and spine frame parts are supposedly different.

Edited May 11 by Tierparkzone